"The interview was conducted by Yannis Dafermos and Torsten Niechoj on 21 October 2022 in Berlin during the 26 th Conference of the Forum for Macroeconomics and Macroeconomic Policies (FMM) on Post-Keynesian Economics and Global Challenges.

Modern financial markets and institutions have grown massively in relation to the economy in the United States and elsewhere, and there is little evidence that in recent years their contributions to economic and social output justify the resources they capture and the risks they impose on...