Organizational learning vs the learning organization: a conversation with a practitioner

Purpose – Through a conversation with a practitioner, aims to understand the definitions given to the learning organization and how they relate to a model of organizational learning. Design/methodology/approach – Provides a brief overview of a conversation concerning organizational learning vs the learning organization. Findings – Organizational learning and the learning organization can and should co‐exist. To be effective as a learning organization there is a need for a deep learning cycle and recognition that it will take time. Originality/value – Offers advice on how to be an effective learning organization.